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In-N-Out Burger Goes Public with Plans for Novato

A meeting will be held on Aug. 15 at Inn Marin to review the proposal by the drive-through eatery for a proposed location in Ignacio.

In-N-Out Burger is going public with its plans for a new eatery in Novato. The company will have a community meeting at 7 p.m. Aug. 15 at for input on the proposal that was submitted to the city's planning department.

As reported in , In-N-Out Burger had been looking at Novato for a possible new location.

The Baldwin Park, Calif.,-based company submitted development entitlement applications to the City of Novato to construct and operate a restaurant on a 1.10-acre site consisting of adjacent parcels at 399 Entrada Drive and 400 Enfrente Road.

Kim Kennedy, project manager for In-N-Out, said that the entitlement application was submitted on Aug. 2 and consists of site plans and a preliminary conceptual drawing. "The planning department has 30 days to deem it complete or not," said Kennedy.

According to the public notice posted on the city's website, In-N-Out Burger's proposal would involve the construction of a 3,750 square-foot restaurant providing dine-in, takeout and drive-through service.

In-N-Out Burger is proposing to have hours of operation of Sunday through Thursday from 10:30 a.m. to 1 a.m. and Friday through Saturday 10:30 a.m. to 1:30 a.m.

In-N-Out Burger is setting up community meeting to learn more about the project, ask questions and offer comments.  "We want to bring awareness to the project and get input," said Kennedy.

One of the parcels on the plan at 399 Entrada is currently home to . The other parcel on Enfrente Road has been listed for sale for several months and was formerly a car care center.

Calls to California Bay Nurseries about the In-N-Out Burger plans have not been returned.

Kennedy said that although the company's preference is to purchase their building sites, the company leases its properties as well.

Meeting Date:      Aug. 15
Meeting Time:     7 p.m.
Location:             Inn Marin, 250 Entrada Drive, Novato, CA


For a local opinion on the pros and cons of In-N-Out coming to Novato, read Eric Lucan's blog

Elizabeth Marin August 08, 2011 at 09:47 PM
My kids love it but say that if we put one in Novato that it would take the fun out of going out to get food there. They think it would just make it too easy and less exciting. They like the idea of going with friends to Petaluma or Strawberry for a treat that they cannot get in Novato. The novelty would be gone.
Eileen Plunkett August 08, 2011 at 10:15 PM
Yes, Elizabeth, but think of the gas savings for you and sales tax income for Novato. When my kids were little they wanted to just get to Mickey D's or BK and eat. LOL...
Mark Schoenbaum August 08, 2011 at 10:53 PM
Not to mention you can still drive all the way across the county of you want.
Naj August 08, 2011 at 11:06 PM
Leave Ca. Bay Nursery Alone. It's a great local nursery with people that are really knowledgeable. The corporations move in and push the little guy out....that and the congestion on the frontage road.
John Parnell August 09, 2011 at 12:03 AM
I don't understand the location choice. Don't get me wrong, I like In-n-Out & this is my exit, so you would think I'd be overjoyed. However, people come off this exit pretty fast, where even exiting the Shell station can be problematic. If cars start backing up on the exit to get their Double-doubles, as everybody is flying around from 37 to 101; this is going to cause major accidents & traffic. Isn't there a better location in Novato than this?
Ron Marcelle August 09, 2011 at 12:06 AM
They truly have a better burger. Let them in and dump the junk form McDs & BK.
Jane Doe August 09, 2011 at 02:00 AM
They could probably avoid the "off-ramp traffic jam" scenario if they plan smartly -- e.g., a parking lot/drive-through entrance that's on Entrada, not Enfrente.
George Cohen August 09, 2011 at 04:50 AM
With as many sites as they have I believe that they have enough knowledge about locations to choose the best one for their business. IN additon they are the ones that are going to buy the land and build the buiding ..not peanuts.. they know what they are doing. Remember this......... jobs... sales tax...plus real estate taxes to help our community peosperous. Bring on the best burgers ASAP>
Tom MacDonald August 09, 2011 at 03:26 PM
Janice, you are right that Cal Bay is a great local nursery. Mark and his staff are very knowledgeable and helpful. But they tend to be uncompetitive on pricing and their inventory is limited. To be truly competitive they needed to expand into the former gas staion property and get competitive on pricing. Without expanding it was probably inevitable that CalBay would be bought out. Life can be harsh, but don't shed too many tears for the property owner who will be doing quite well. And let's hope that Mark and staff will land on their feet.
Steven Leonard August 09, 2011 at 03:32 PM
Because of the southbound freeway exit and the short stopping distance to swing a right hand turn into in-and-out, and the north bound cross traffic crossing the oncoming exit traffic there's going to be a major traffic accident unless the off ramp is re-done. I'd love to see in-and-out but even right now it's a dangerous intersection.
Kozette Rushton August 09, 2011 at 03:44 PM
An In & Out in Novato! Yay, that's a two thumbs up and a "like" for me.
Lou Judson August 09, 2011 at 04:06 PM
Agree with Kozette! In-n-Out is the ONLY chain place I ever eat, all my other dining choices are local and family owned. Would LOVE to have it acros the freeway frm home. Maybe the additional traffic will help get that abominable exit arrangeent re-designed properly too! Those three lanes dwindling to one and the confusing lane layout between S Novato Blvd and Ignacio exit is a death waiting to happen!
Sam Roth August 09, 2011 at 06:19 PM
This is great news! My kids and I like In n out!
Tracey Ruiz August 09, 2011 at 06:24 PM
I had to go to Petaluma and get an In-N-Out burger after writing the story.
Brent Carlson August 09, 2011 at 10:41 PM
If anyone is interested in In-and-Out Burger and history, I would suggest a real good book by Stacy Perman. I learned a lot about the company and history from the book. They are true to Limited expansion and listening to their "Future" customers for feedback, so the meeting at Inn Marin would be interesting for those in attendence. Some education on the company helped me understand. I like more tax revenue for Novato, but I thought Hahn Development with Vintage Oaks would have solved that issue. The exit has signs, but late at 25 MPH. NPD could give out a few tickets there. More Revenue.. Ha Ha..
Voni Eyler August 10, 2011 at 12:41 AM
It'd be great to have one local. That way the high school kids won't have to speed to & from Petaluma during their 35 minute lunch break to get their In-N-Out fix.
Michael Hoeber Jenkins August 10, 2011 at 09:47 AM
I think we all are missing the bigger picture here. Fast food is not good for you. I own the Body Kinetics in Novato and am trying to promote healthy choices for the residents of our community. How about locally grown, organic fruits and vegetables? That supports your local farmer, leaves the money right here in Marin County and is better for the environment. Why? 30% of trash is made up of fast food waste. Every time you remove a locally owned business and replace it with a out of area chain you diminish your community. I live, work and spend money right here in Marin County.
Susan Clark August 10, 2011 at 01:51 PM
I think the location is terrible. It's going to get vey congested especially with the high school students through out Novato and mosy likely San Rafael.
Lou Judson August 10, 2011 at 02:52 PM
Does anyone remember the fracas around the Mill Valley location? The yuppies down there were so paranoid about traffic problems at the corner location (which was ideal for a drive through) that the city did not allow a drive thru to be built. NOW and ever since, there is a royal mess of traffic in and outof the parking lot, and everybody has to park and walk inside, and jokey for a space close enough, and it is a mess. With even slightly careful design, which In-N-Out has done at all the locations I have seen, it can be smooth. It is ot the worst location at all compared to others along I-80 and 101... <L>
Molly Brown August 10, 2011 at 03:59 PM
I would love to see In & Out in Novato!
Joseph Gray August 10, 2011 at 06:13 PM
Brent, I also read that book. Very informative. According to the authour, the founder Harry Snyder actually spent time at Hamilton Field while in the service. Nice way to honor the founder by having a store in Novato.
Lou Judson August 10, 2011 at 06:20 PM
Thanks Brent and Joseph! I serched for Harry snyder and Wkipedia linke dme to this interesting company history (as well and Perman';s book) <http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/InNOut-Burger-Company-History.html> How many people know that Snyder actually invented the drive-through restaurant in 1948!?!
Jackie Thoma August 14, 2011 at 08:19 AM
When the kids want to go to In&out..the traffic is too much going up to Petaluma and the lack of parking and wait time for Mill Valley's location makes it a fail...It will be nice to be able to say Yes we can go to in&out in Novato!!

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