The want us to believe it's a damn Privilege to burn a fire in our homes? They control FIRE? The most fundamental element of civilization??!!! Give me a break!
Al Nymous January 03, 2014 at 11:37 PM
Air Nazis! Welcome to the bay area.
Rick Voorhees January 04, 2014 at 11:07 AM
novato 3per January 04, 2014 at 02:54 PM
27 "spare the air" days - almost a month of wasted $$$$ that I could have saved - and look at this, PG& E rates are going up this year!!! http://www.pgecurrents.com/2013/12/31/pg-increase-will-pay-for-clean-energy-safety-and-reliability/ Too bad it's against my principles to lie about my income and qualify for discounted rates - like so many leeches do.
novato 3per January 04, 2014 at 02:54 PM
D Duigou January 04, 2014 at 05:37 PM
Dirty air is no joke when you have asthma. Clean air is becoming a premium. Your burning wood, when you do not need to means all of us suffer with dirty air. Including our children...
novato 3per January 04, 2014 at 06:18 PM
Ahh, the children plea..What about MY children, Duigou? They have been asking me for a fire for the last month Duigou. Duigou, the problem we have begins with your judgment - "when you do not need to . You know nothing about my financial situation or any of my other "needs" and have no right to take away my natural rights, furthermore, you and the air Nazis are offering me nothing in return for my forced sacrifice. There is no agreement or scientific consensus that we are dealing with dirty air in Marin, moreover, what have people with asthma been doing prior to the last 5 years? Finally, my daughter has occasuional asthma and her reactions have no correlation to a clean burning source of heat - as witnessed by her flare-ups over the last month that I attribute more to our forced heating blowing dust around- and yes our system is clean, with a fresh premium filter. As I mentioned earlier, there is no more particulate coming out of my chimney than from my gas heater vent atop my roof . I'm sorry you're buying into this hoax, I guess you'll be in favor of banning the combustion engine next, right?
novato 3per January 04, 2014 at 06:32 PM
Do you support a leaf blower ordinance?
ken January 05, 2014 at 05:08 AM
I would like to see the actual air quality test results and the equipment they use to test. Also have 3 different air quality testing groups independent of eachother that are not tide together. I dont believe they are giving us accurate info. I think the Bay area air quality district is not being honest.
novato 3per January 05, 2014 at 01:03 PM
Thank you - have to go with your own common sense. Been living here for 40+ years, would know an air change if it happened, but would like independent validations as you have suggested Ken.
D Duigou January 05, 2014 at 03:06 PM
When I say we do not need to burn wood, I mean we have the technology to do otherwise. Central heat. I can see the air I breathe when those fireplaces are burning. It sends me to the ER. Sorry that I live in a world were yes, car exhaust is 62% of Marin air pollution. Me & other people have the right to clean air. Sorry I am out of this discussion. Sorry I brought it up. the science is behind saving the air.
Al Nymous January 05, 2014 at 06:30 PM
If your a bubble boy, don't take it out on others. A wood burning stove is the "alternative energy". 3per, I think it's legal to burn if that is your only heat source.
novato 3per January 05, 2014 at 08:48 PM
I'm just asking for freedom of choice. I'm an honest working father and husband who is just getting by, not eligible for any assistance, don't want any, I don't qualify for any PG&E breaks, I don't get subsidized housing, no free healthcare, I pay my mortgage, my taxes, my kids don't get free school lunch , we wouldn't want a free lunch, we just want to be left alone to pay our own way and save money where we can. Supplementing our home heating with a clean burning fire has always been a way to keep my family warm and happy, and save a few $$ to put back into our budget. I don't have more affordable technology Duigou..You can't see the air coming out of MY chimney..did you see my comments on the drawbacks of forced air...the drying of the sinuses, blowing of dust and contaminants WITHIN my house??? SHOW me the science behind these laws in this location, PLEASE!
ken January 06, 2014 at 05:17 AM
Novato 3per you are.100% percent right forced furnaces account for alot of asthma problems, and lets face the fact our air is nothing like Los Angeles. Another fact the more spare the air days Bay Area Quality district can declare the more funding they can get from the state. They are serving their own interests not the people they are trying to blame falsely. How many people have gotten asthma related problems from outside air as opposed to stale recirculated inside air. As a person with 24 plus years in the air conditioning industry. Saying outside air causes asthma and trips to the ER is like saying the police cause crime, and you know thats not true more scare tacticts from a beuracracy trying to justify there existence, and trying to get more power over us all
Dick and Gloria Casey January 06, 2014 at 10:38 AM
Follow the money...the dirtier they can claim the air is, the more money they get to burden us.....never changes...when I was a kid, people with breathing problems moved to Ariz. They still have room there I believe...............this is just another "government control" subject...what is amazing, is we are told to "turn in our neighbors" if they cheat. Hitler had the kids turn in their folks...........................D.
Citizen January 07, 2014 at 03:09 PM
Please Google "wood smoke" and "health effects" to find out more about the toxicity of wood smoke pollution. The World Health Organization, the EPA, the American Lung Association, and Utah Physicians for Clean Air all agree: wood smoke contains small particles as well as chemicals like benzene and PAHs that are very harmful to human health (or see: http://tinyurl.com/yod9f8). We all benefit from clean air: burning is optional, breathing isn't. See http://familiesforcleanair.org for more information.
Citizen Too January 07, 2014 at 04:41 PM
Many wood burning stoves, at least those manufactured in the last 20 years have a catalytic converter built in so it removes over 90% of particles from the smoke it puts out--that can also be seen in the amount of ash it creates which those of us who own such stoves know is negligible (I clean mine once every two months if that much). I just received my PG&E bill for the cold cycle we had and for which most of we were not allowed to burn wood and it broke my monthly budget. If we are not allowed to burn wood for heating than an adjustment needs to be made to our bills to compensate for that period. Having an all or nothing situation just causes more resentment and causes people to be angry and not want to cooperate. A compromise needs to be found.


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