Would You Support a Chick-Fil-A in Novato?

The fast food chain bought the Carl's Jr. site on Rowland Way.

Gay rights activists nationwide went ape a few weeks ago when the president of a fast food chain made statements that he supported only traditional man/woman marriages. 

What if that chain, Chick-Fil-A, opened a restaurant in Novato? 

The Marin Independent Journal reported Monday that Chick-Fil-A has purchased land in town — where the is now on Rowland Way. It might be a few years before Chick-Fil-A takes over, a commercial real estate contact told the IJ.

So, how do you feel about this? Would you protest Chick-Fil-A's presence here? Does the ethics of a distant executive enter into the equation when you have stomach pangs? Share your thoughts below and vote in our poll.

Claire August 22, 2012 at 10:04 PM
How un-Catholic and un-Christian of you to threaten violence! The hypocrisy keeps going on and on...
DavethePragmatist August 22, 2012 at 11:49 PM
Getting to it: 1. "Right", you threatened violence (running over someone in a driveway) - forget the metaphorical excuse, that is quite weak 2. Few will accept your "morality" which is purely yours and no one elses. You have shown in your comments similarity with other extremists in showing more "respect" for a bunch of cells then for actual living beings, for religious zeolots and hypocrits, than for the bulk of society, for those who want power over others. If you had a daughter, how would you truly feel? If you felt as you write, you really do show evil. 3. You are giving more "rights" to violent criminals than to law-abiding citizens, more acceptance of violence than to the message of your savior, to help the sick, needy, and poor. 4. Back to the main message of this article - while we cannot easily prevent a business from setting up shop, we should use the power of our economy by not buying the product of a group that we do not agree with. I would NEVER buy any product from CFA because of its owner's statements of bigotry and hatred toward others. I also would not accept into my home or in my circle anyone that puts a fried chicken sandwich (and note how this product is only there for making profit, not for actually feeding a society, thus the murder of innocent animals is the main product) above the rights of loving human beings.
Claire August 22, 2012 at 11:57 PM
Thanks Dave! What a breath of fresh air!
DavethePragmatist August 22, 2012 at 11:57 PM
Brent, while I truly enjoy and thank you for what you've done with the Patch (it is a great benefit to our community), did you really start this article by saying that activists "...went ape..."??? I think that is rather poor and disrespectful adjective to use to describe a community of our citizens that were shown such amazing disrespect by a major business owner.
DavethePragmatist August 23, 2012 at 12:01 AM
Tina, for someone that takes policy seriously, are you seriously mostly concerned with the type of fast food available than the rights of citizens, which was the main point of this article?
DavethePragmatist August 23, 2012 at 12:04 AM
I think you would find your supporter more in the southern U.S. We don't need the additional bigotry around here. Whose religious values...the same ones of priests that are pedophiles? Keep your religion to yourself. More wars and more deaths have come from extremists trying to push their so-called religion on others.
DavethePragmatist August 23, 2012 at 12:09 AM
Mark, really? The point is, the President did get rid of DADT and has shown acceptance for all to be married regardless of gendered. That is cowardly to say..well, he didn't do it before...Fact..it is done! Fact, the reason it wasn't done is because of having to deal with a Republican congress that had only one agenda item - defeat the President. Yeah, takes a lot of gonad to be a bully and not actually have dialogue that moves society forward. And how about this most recent Republican extremist tirade out there. Pretty much sums it all doesnt it.
Christine August 23, 2012 at 01:21 AM
Dave the P, the activists DID go ape. They were the disrespectful ones while Chick-fill-A stayed professional serving their attackers free water with a smile. It always amazes me how the far left likes to twist the truth! Brent, THANK YOU for your unbiased journalism. I appreciate everything you do to make Novato Patch #1.
DavethePragmatist August 23, 2012 at 01:53 AM
So "Right" you just expressed that you are ok with even one priest taking advantage of an innocent child? And you are ok with, what was the number reported, 39000 pregnancies resulting from rape (of course you likely blame the victim) annually? What Deity do you really believe in? And of course, you are for Big Government intruding into the lives of its citizens - but you are not fine with citizens controlling their own bodies...not even the victims of heinous acts having rights. By the way, if you could be cloned, and cloned cells could become a living being, would clipping your toenails be murder? I mean, those cells have the "potential" to become self-sufficient. Also, what about contraception? It is removing the "potential" as well. What about your Deity who causes a miscarriage? Should that also be a criminal case? By the way, how would you define Woman's Rights? Everyone here would like to know? And finally, citizens that decry bigotry are barbaric? Really now. You would have been more appropriate living in the 1930s Germany based on your responses.
DavethePragmatist August 23, 2012 at 02:00 AM
"Right" - please consider this one - a criminal rapes a woman who becomes pregnant who doesn't abort because of pressure from her "religion" (even though she can't possibly continue in her mind) and later in the pregnancy the woman dies due to a complication but the result of the rapist survives. Think that can't happen? So, what is that called, God's will? Your answer really will tell us who you are. Or how about this one, a criminal rapes a child that results in a pregnancy. What is your answer for that one? Show us your true self and by the way, the truth of the current Republican platform and so called "believers." Show us all your true self.
DavethePragmatist August 23, 2012 at 02:02 AM
Christine, so you support a major business owner that denegrates others to lower status by not allowing them the rights that you have. Fine if he keeps it to himself, but you are ok with him denegrating millions in public like that? Really? What kind of compassion is that? Hey, you don't have to live that way? But why not allow others to love who they want and have same rights as you? What makes you so privileged?
From Victim to Survivor August 23, 2012 at 02:07 AM
Dave - Thank you for your compassionate and thoughtful comments. I, too, was bothered by the "went ape" descriptor, for what I believe was an important and reasonable protest to CFAs stated bigotry against Gays and Lesbians. I'm quite upset to learn of their intention to come into Novato. Like you, I will NEVER purchase anything from their establishment (as a vegetarian and animal rights advocate, I avoid fast food anyway). It's good to know there are many like-minded folks in this town. Right - I post this anonymously since I am one of those women who was beaten/raped, got pregnant and had an abortion. You have the right to believe whatever you want, but don't you dare judge someone like me unless you have walked in these shoes. Regardless that you have strong personal/religious beliefs, I find your comments unnecessarily cruel. As to CFA - they have every right to state their hateful beliefs and to donate their profits accordingly - as I have the right to boycott their business and to hope that many others in this town do likewise.
DavethePragmatist August 23, 2012 at 02:27 AM
"Right"..finally I can say it, you are beyond wrong, you beliefs are evil, truly evil and cruel. I apologize to the Patch readers for saying that..but you each see what we are facing in this society. Cowardness that is seen by all including this individual's God. I pray for your children if you have them and your family for having to "learn" from you. Be well. That, is my true self. And I wish there were not those like you in our community. But who is "bud light"?
DavethePragmatist August 23, 2012 at 02:29 AM
and why are you afraid of addressing the examples I provided? Have you no answer to them? do they mess up your beliefs? Those are REAL examples. Yes, my friend real examples. Do you not believe that? Does your Church say such is only fiction? What say you to that?
DavethePragmatist August 23, 2012 at 02:44 AM
Thanks for showing yourself again to all. cells over humans. well done. By the way, how much support to give to individuals that are having difficulty in the world? Once born and recongized as a citizen, I suppose you say...well done for making it this far through the birth canal...now you are on your own and we don't care about you (cause that is what you are saying in choosing cells where you have "power" over vs humans that have a beating heart.
DavethePragmatist August 23, 2012 at 02:46 AM
Thank you VtS. Please be well. No one should have gone through what you did. "Right" will never understand so it is pointless to try and reason with such an individual. We've tried as you can see.
DavethePragmatist August 23, 2012 at 02:52 AM
Interesting "Right" that you claim a "right" but you are not able to allow actual other people to have rights. That is the most typical response of what you represent. You really just want power over others. That is how this article started. Power over others. That is the child abuse issue, that is what not allowing two citizens to marry is about, that is what not allowing full benefits to loving partners is about, that is what not allowing individuals to believe in their own values without being pummeled by others (by the way, I am fine with you believing in your own religion as long as you allow others to belief in theirs), that my friend is Germany of the 1930s. And to stall you right away...no, cells are not a person. Have a wonderful evening!
DavethePragmatist August 23, 2012 at 02:55 AM
I am sorry...I finally read the absolute cruelty that "Right" just exhibited to you VtS.It, yes "it", doesn't care about you, but you know the rest of us do. It doesn't believe that you suffered, it doesn't believe you were a victim. It has given the criminal more rights than you have.
Steve Pollock August 23, 2012 at 03:01 AM
This is a rare form of entertainment, please continue. No need to be nice or consider your neighbors perspective. Let us all know when you are ready and we'll set up a mud wrestling area at Miwok Park and take photos of the event. Of course, it will still just be entertainment, no one will have changed thier views but you might feel better. Gotta run myself. All this fun is making me hungry and I need to hop in my Prius and drive 45 in the fast lane to to the In & Out Buger in Petaluma. I sure hope they don't come out against someone's personal rights because I just love those fries. Namaste. Play nice kids.
DavethePragmatist August 23, 2012 at 03:40 AM
Final statement..in case you missed it, this is a repeat...I already said you can believe what you want. However, I don't and will never accept your attempt nor your extreme religious attempt to control others to extol power...period. And yes, your response to the victim who was brutalized as shown in her message earlier was absolutely cruel without compassion. We all pray for your sins.
RJ August 23, 2012 at 05:10 AM
Right, I appreciate your ability to form an independent, informed decision, however, without wisdom and awareness, that ability does not reach its full potential. Perhaps some introspection and peaceful loving thoughts for all beings would help you to bring a more tolerant and loving approach. Heck, you might even realize how wrong you are.
Claire August 23, 2012 at 04:06 PM
To 'From Victim to Survivor': I am deeply sorry for what happened to you - I have goose bumps as I am writing this! I applaude your courage to speak up and to take your life into your own hands. I am deeply troubled by Right's heartless and cold comments to you. Apparently he not only doesn't like women's rights, gays and lesbians, but he also doesn't seem to like vegetarians and animal rights activists. If he is the picture of the Catholic faith, it is even one more reason to state they fail to live up to their own standards. Doesn't God love everybody, no matter what and aren't Christians supposed to love each other and support each other? Well, I don't see any of that in Right - I see a heartless religious extremist who will not even shy away from violence to try to excert his power. I wish you strength in your life and I hope you can find happiness despite the despicable act you had to endure!
Claire August 23, 2012 at 04:36 PM
Right - though I am a compassionate and kind person, and I do not wish harm on anyone, I hope you may have to experience what you say raped women and their families should go through - may your wife, your daughter, your grand-daughter or your mother be raped and pregnant - I am sure you would love that child to death! Karma....
Claire August 23, 2012 at 04:46 PM
Of course you are so above everyone else! Weren't you the one who said I would get run over if I came close to your driveway (and I am sure you own a very big truck with a big stick with which you would make me flatter than a pancake)? You are the worst offender of your own words in this community.
Claire August 23, 2012 at 05:07 PM
I don't know if you have underaged children or an elderly mother - but according to you, since a life is a life it doesn't matter whether it starts in an underaged child (likely an elderly woman might not be affected for the fact she can't bear children anymore) and - as we know - children are not exempt from being abused or raped. You are protective of your children, but you think that the abuse inflicted on children by your very own church is no different than the abuse of children by others. Also, you don't know if 'Victim from Survivor' was a minor when she was brutally beaten and raped, do you? Would that have justified her decision to have an abortion? So how about your daughter bearing the life of such a brutal rapist? I am sure you would make a proud grandpa!
Anthony Nachor August 26, 2012 at 04:50 AM
I'd rather have another burger restaurant, like Five Guys or In-n-Out, over Chick-Fil-A. It'd be a "good business strategy" for the bosses from College Park, GA, since it will be a "unique" location in the Bay Area (the closest to San Francisco). However, look into its business practices and views first before judging whether or not that restaurant will survive in the long-run. In a mainly Democrat and affluent Marin County, I think we deserve something better than having a Southern-based chain based on Biblical principles and offers discounts to military personnel (thus there's a Chick-Fil-A in Fairfield: it's close to Travis AFB).
Kit August 27, 2012 at 03:22 PM
Yes, please
Kit August 27, 2012 at 03:22 PM
Yes, to SOL FOOD!
Kit August 27, 2012 at 03:25 PM
I don't care for FaTS Foods - though when in need and In and Out is sweet! That said, I completely respect the freedom of speech that Chick-Fil-A demonstrated and agree with their stance about protecting marriage between one man and one woman.
Charles Thompson August 28, 2012 at 08:45 AM
To me, it's not as important whether I agree or disagree with the same-sex marriage issue as it is that I strongly support the right of individuals to have and express their opinions and beliefs. Much like the "shouting match" above. While I would disagree with the CEO's opinion, I would also be one of those standing in line to try the sandwich as a show of my support for his right to his opinion.


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