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Crime, Public Safety Focus of Council Candidate Debate

Pensions and police staffing are hottest topics at forum sponsored by two police department associations.

 

Candidates for the Novato City Council were on their best behavior Thursday night at Novato City Hall. After all, the Novato chapters of the Police Managers Association and the Police Officers Association hosted it.

No problems here, officer.

Six of seven candidates occupied seats normally filled by the Novato City Council members, so it was business as usual for incumbents Madeline Kellner and Jeanne MacLeamy and a teaser to challengers Jerome Ghigliotti, Eric Lucan, Leslie Peterson Schwarze and Eleanor Sluis. Manny Fernandez, a no-show, said he doesn't plan on participating at any candidate forums.

As expected the line of questioning Thursday centered on the police department. Two questions diverted from the theme: prioritization of Measure F fax funds of about $3 million per year over five years and the candidates’ stances on the new city administrative offices that are in the planning stages across Machin Avenue from the police department.

The stickiest issue was about pension reform. Kellner and MacLeamy worked with city staff and other council members to negotiate concessions in the past year that helped Novato reduce its ongoing fiscal deficit, which hovers at about $2.5 million per year. The incumbents mentioned a research effort starting to take place that will analyze all city employee compensation and compare it to other cities. Waiting for the results of that study and then negotiating again is the best move, Kellner and MacLeamy said.

All the candidates supported efforts to make sure the police are compensated as well as possible to retain the best people for the jobs, and several thanked the police for accepting the benefit concessions. Ghigliotti, who has come down hard on Chief of Police Joseph Kreins while speaking at council meetings over the past two years, said police might need to split pension costs with the city rather than having the city pay 7 percent of retirement benefits vs. 2 percent contributed by police personnel.

Lucan, a businessman who has served as a volunteer chaplain for the police, said, “I don’t think pensions are the problem. I believe the economy is the problem.” Sluis mentioned that she wanted to make sure women on the force were being compensated as well as the men.

The candidates agreed, too, that public safety should be a top priority and it would be best if Novato had more officers on the street to address a perceived increase in crime. Kreins has noted several times to the Novato City Council that crime is down overall but that Novato has fewer officers per capita than many other cities its size. The candidates discussed the challenges of funding the department when the economy is soft and the city is receiving fewer property tax dollars.

MacLeamy noted that the recent loss of school resource officers was significant and the city should look into partnering with the school district to revive that on-campus program. Peterson Schwarze suggested it’s time for the Novato City Council and the Novato Unified School District board should have a joint meeting for the first time in four years to discuss the issue but that it’s the city’s responsibility, not the school district’s, to pay for policing.

Lucan said the city could redirect funds from the city office project or create new sources of revenue from additional taxes or sales/leases of city-owned property. Ghigliotti said a key way to reduce gang-related crimes is to enforce laws more strictly and impound cars being driven by undocumented immigrants arrested for such crimes.

On the topic of city offices, Lucan came out strongly against the complex that is to be built on an existing parking lot at Machin Avenue and Cain Lane, about 100 yards from Novato City Hall. At a previous debate put on by the Novato Chamber of Commerce, Lucan leaned in that direction but not as adamant in his opposition against a project unanimously approved by Kellner, MacLeamy and the other current council members.

“It’s not a wise choice when we have a $2.5 million ongoing structural deficit,” Lucan said, noting that the cost of the new building is expected to be $12 million to $15 million. He said existing buildings in Novato could be purchased for much less to house the approximately 60 city employees, leaving leftover funds for other capital improvements.

Sluis also stood by her opposition to the project and Peterson Schwarze said Sacramento decisions about the future of redevelopment agencies makes it too volatile a situation for Novato to march forward with the project. Ghigliotti said he supported the council’s backing of the plan.

On prioritizing Measure F funds, MacLeamy suggested paying down unfunded pension liabilities and other debt. Peterson Schwarze said “working smarter” and diving headlong into the annual budget to eliminate wasteful spending should be a high priority. Putting dormant city-owned properties to use and seeking public-private partnerships was Kellner’s message.

Lucan said new tax revenues should be explored as long as it doesn’t deter new business from coming to Novato. Red light traffic enforcement cameras and downtown parking meters should at least be discussed, he said. Ghigliotti advocated for making sure our residents are legal U.S. citizens, who have a higher rate of paying taxes.

The police-sponsored forum was taped for future viewing on Novato Public Access TV. The airing schedule is to be determined.

Related Topics: Candidates, Debate, Elections, Forum, Government, and Novato City Council
Have you made your decision on who will get your votes? Tell us in the comments.

Novatan

1:57 pm on Friday, October 7, 2011

Lucan is making sense, although blaming "the economy" seems to be America's favorite copout. Let's concentrate on solutions and not excuses. I agree it's the wrong time to allow new city offices to be built, and I agree that small businesses need to be at the forefront of most discussions. Unfortunately for Jerome, he comes off as too radical and *ahem* racially biased, and althought the pension split seems like a good idea, it is a burden that our retired law enforcers should not have to carry alone. I am curious to see if what can be done to boost West Novato's business slump, especially over at the Square. Can this part of town be revitalized? Please repost and let us know when the meeting will be aired. Thanks.

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Jerome J Ghigliotti Jr

7:35 pm on Sunday, October 9, 2011

There are tens of millions of Hispanic American citizens who are law abiding, and contribute positively to the community. This is not about race, it is about whether or not we are a nation of laws. If some people are excused or exempted from some laws, eventually, we will experience a devolution into crime and anarchy. Why is equal enforcement of the law a bad idea?
JEROME J. GHIGLIOTTI, JR. FOR NOVATO CITY COUNCIL
www.ElectJerome.com

Born & raised

2:57 pm on Friday, October 7, 2011

I agree with the above comment. The city should move into an existing building and use funds to buy and/ or improve the square. Teddy Atell, the owner of Henrys Burgers has a sign on Wilson that's been covered with paint for months now. Take a little pride in your business and clean it up or remove it. There is no reason that the Square can't be near as nice The new Hamilton Shopping Center.

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Jerome J Ghigliotti Jr

7:09 am on Saturday, October 8, 2011

Henry's did remove the white paint over, and the next day it was painted over again. I saw a man removing the white paint.

Worry

4:18 pm on Friday, October 7, 2011

So it seems that four candidates were present to challenge the incumbents. The two incumbents, Kellner and MacLeamy, seem to be the most outspoken proponents of the downtown office plan. Out of the four candidates, three of them have come out very strongly against spending $12-15 million on city offices downtown. Each has made it very clear at this debate and in other forums that city offices are a bad plan in this economy and due to the adverse affect city offices will have on downtown Novato's parking and its potential going forward. Lucan, Shwartze & Sluis ARE ALL AGAINST CITY OFFICES DOWNTOWN. They each have spent the most time out with the Novato public getting the feel for what Novato really wants and needs. Their stances here are wise and reflect financial prudence. Whereas the 5 members of the current council, who seem to be led by the two incumbents, are stuck in 1978. They have once again taken up a losing fight. One that many council members before them have waged and lost as well. City offices do not belong downtown considering the many better options for downtown, they cost far too much, and they are far from what the citizens here want.

Elect three new council members. The city offices will be nixed within a week and these funds can be spent on many different needs that Novato has. Or.. don't spend them at all.. Just don't waste all $15 million on one project for 60 people working 4 days per week.

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Tina McMillan

10:28 am on Saturday, October 8, 2011

Worry

Yes! We must elect new city council members to get movement on this issue. The current council is bound and determined to use the full 15 million to build offices. This is one of the main reasons Gov. Brown decided to close redevelopment districts. Cities were not using the money appropriately. A portion of the 15 million could be used to purchase an existing building leaving the remaining money to support a project that would help shore up business and revenue. We have needed parking downtown for decades. The Square is being destroyed by its current owner. Villa Roma left because the rent was increased rather than reduced. I remember when we had Roger Wilco, Longs and Tag's was full with customers throughout the week. This is a wonderful location for West Novato families to have convenient access to shops. For those in the sustainable community it reduces the need for cars as it is an easy walk. I can't believe anyone would intentionally destroy business there but I suspect based on the 2010 affordable housing site proposal that they will want to convert the Square into mixed use including high density affordable housing. Yes, these are guesses but why else would owners drive business from the Square.
Leslie Peterson Schwarze knows and understands what we are asking for when we say we want responsible spending and control over affordable housing mandates.

VOTE LESLIE PETERSON SCHWARZE FOR CITY COUNCIL

Toni Shroyer

10:33 pm on Friday, October 7, 2011

Leslie Peterson Schwarze did a wonderful job. I loved in her closing comments she added---when people in Southern Marin have a problem, they pick up a cocktail, in Novato the citizen's pick up a shovel.
Amen Sister Peterson Schwarze! Amen!

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Dennis Cooper

11:29 pm on Friday, October 7, 2011

@Novatan and Born & Raised (by the way, I happen to be a "born and raised" "Novatan") The Square shopping center has so much potential and needs to be addressed. It is clear that the owner is trying too intentionally blight this property. We've already lost Villa Roma which not only made great pizza but was a great sponsor of the community. Something needs to be done before we lose the other wonderful and unique businesses there.
The City has $14.9m from the redevelopment bond sale back in March. Two of the primary goals of Redevelopment is to eliminate blight and spur job growth. Currently, all of the $14.9m are going to one project: building Downtown City Offices. Regardless of whether or not you think you think City Offices should be more centrally located , or if you think there is a parking issue downtown, why is the City completely ignoring what's going on with The Square shopping center and spending 100% of these redevelopment funds to build their office building. They could buy and renovate an existing building in town for $4-5m. Call one of the local construction, engineering, or commercial real estate guys that have been in this town for 30,40, or 50 years. They'll confirm.
I think the Novato Community Alliance originally represented the neighborhoods around The Square (I might be wrong). I wonder if they might be able to help rally people to speak up about getting the City to spread that money out to the neighborhoods that need it. It is our tax money after all.

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Jerome J Ghigliotti Jr

7:06 am on Saturday, October 8, 2011

My question to the incumbents was why does a $1 million grant buy us 3 new officers, while Proposition F producing $3 million, and promised more officers, only result in addition of 1/2 officer?

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Toni Shroyer

7:35 am on Saturday, October 8, 2011

Excellent point Dennis about The Square. Yet another reason why new blood is needed on Council. I think it is wonderful LPS is not seeking endorsements. We don't want a council member who is beholden to any group. We need a critical thinker and not a puppet. Novato is very. Fortunate to have a "people's candidate."

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Edwin Drake

11:11 am on Saturday, October 8, 2011

Question for Schwarze, Lucan, and Sluis: Should City manager Frank be kept or let go? The simple fact that a bedroom community of 50,000 finds itself divided is enough reason to toss out the incumbents. They have mismanaged decision making to bring us to this point. And, the finger must point to manager Frank.

Also for candidates: How should the city involve itself in The Square? What actions do people see the city taking?

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Worry

12:13 pm on Saturday, October 8, 2011

Ed, I doubt you will hear from the city council on this one. My thoughts for what they are worth, and they only relate to the city office debacle. M. Frank came out strongly against these city offices in 2010. He and Ron Gerber issued a report that stated the city SHOULD NOT BUILD BUT BUY EXISTING. The council took that report, wiped their nose with it, and voted 5-0 to build downtown. Once that vote was made Frank is charged with following through with the council's wishes. Many found it interesting that Frank's IJ op ed piece that came out a month or so ago was published 12 hours before he was schedule to meet behind closed doors with the council "to review his performance". I guess we can fault him for not standing up to the council at the risk of losing his job in this terrible economy.

What I find interesting about Michael Frank is that I have seen him walking, eating, shopping, enjoying downtown on many occasions. He seems to support Novato. I very rarely see any council members downtown. They might be there when there is a stage, a microphone, or a parade but they do not seem to support downtown.

Frank may not be perfect but I think he is in a difficult position with this council. I hoipe that when Schwarze, Lucan and Sluis replace Carol, Jeanne, and Madeline they sit with Frank and give him a fair shake.

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Tina McMillan

2:28 pm on Saturday, October 8, 2011

Edwin

Like Worry, I see it as a don't shoot the messenger approach. Whoever gets elected needs to see if the existing staff will work with the new group consensus to make needed changes.

Jerome J Ghigliotti Jr

1:51 pm on Saturday, October 8, 2011

My information is the city manager Frank is an at will employee and can easily be terminated. That is part of my printed and distributed Platform. I do not believe that any other candidate had a printed Platform, so that they can weasel out of promises after elected. I will not weasel. People have called me a lot of things, but no one has ever called me a weasel.

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David Edmondson

6:25 pm on Saturday, October 8, 2011

Is this available to watch on-demand anywhere?

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Thomas

6:28 pm on Saturday, October 8, 2011

I also would like to know. I am not a comcast customer and would find it great if Novato Public Access put their content online for streaming.

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David Edmondson

11:38 pm on Saturday, October 8, 2011

Anyone want to record it to share? I'm trying to collect the debates to put on YouTube and my blog. Had some technical problems with San Anselmo's (only got half) and missed Larkspur's, so I'd love to get help.

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Jerome J Ghigliotti Jr

7:37 pm on Sunday, October 9, 2011

The POA has said that it will be on Public Access television, possibly on Monday, but day and time are not definite. However, I think that Public Access channel 27 is only available to Comcast subscribers.

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David Edmondson

7:53 pm on Sunday, October 9, 2011

As a candidate, could you twist some arms with the Public Access to get a copy? I'd think you'd want to put some clips of your answers onto your site.

Worry

2:10 pm on Sunday, October 9, 2011

Whoa... hold on city offices, don't be so brash.
A smart little birdie says "is that really your cash?"

This week will be telling and Frank will first know..
That our friendly council may have stubbed their collective toe.

The issue is far from a "ship that has sailed"
As the femme fatale five might instead have to bail.

It is not clear in regards to their ship
But these next few days hold hope that the scales will tip.

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Tina McMillan

6:50 pm on Sunday, October 9, 2011

Worry

You are waxing poetic...what do you know?

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Bob Ratto

9:00 pm on Sunday, October 9, 2011

I don't do poetry as I failed iambic pentamber
Is $43MM a bit too rich, will that amount sink us into a ditch?
When bonds are floated from a fund that lacks capacity to service debt,will we end up on the dead end?
Does fake tax increment give you comfort? It shoudn't...

Renee

9:37 pm on Sunday, October 9, 2011

Jerome, I am actually thrilled to see that you have stated from your earlier post, that " there are many millions of Hispanics that are law abiding and contribute positively to the community" I think that statement could work in a positive manner for your future in many ways, good for you!!

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Jerome J Ghigliotti Jr

2:45 pm on Wednesday, October 26, 2011

I have been accused of being a "racist", in this column, I wrote a Letter to the Editor of Novato Patch clarifying my position on race, and the editor declined to print it. The editor wrote: "We'd like our site to be the forum for civil discussion and productive changes of ideas." Out of respect for the First Amendment rights of Freedom of Press, I am not going to try to sneak that letter into comments, However, I have to reiterate the recent court argument of Michael Richards that only Caucasians can be called "racists". Racist acts and words by non-Caucasians are immune. Why?

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